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If you right down the numbers and do some calculations… The best strategy is “raise”. That is generally accepted.
A good spot to limp with your aces though it when you are in late stages in a (low buy-in) tournament with a small stack and you have a lot of shortstacks after you looking for double up opportunities. (In higher buy ins your limp will be noticed!)
In cash games and early in tourneys is better to raise for a lot of reasons.
Im not re-raising wih any pocket pair to build any pot or hit my set(although that would be nice).
Im taking control of the hand by re-raising, im being the aggressor, its not whether i hit the flop its whether my opponent hits the flop, thats if they stay in the hand preflop.
limping w AA in any position is NOT the best decision. by all means, if you are ever at a table with me, please limp.
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the one time i would maybe just double the BB is on the button with an agressive short stack sb or bb. i would want them to think I am weakly trying to steal the blinds. but never ever limp.
he could have anyhing, but odds are you are beat or you will be beat. my guess would be a weak flush like 9 10s or a set of 4s or 5s. He does not want anyone to see the next card obviously. I would have to see how he has been playing before this hand but this is my first instinct.
ita completely w jims comment above. you can find out the true strength of the raisrs hand by reraising. they may overestimate your hand by you reraising esp if you have been playing ultra tight the first few levels of the the tournament at a table that has not been broken. you have spent a long time creating a tight aggressive table image and eventually you have to start taking advantage of it.
“You gotta know when to hold em … and when to fold em” Kenny Rodgers
” But they was suited”
ONE TIME!!!
Do you want a cookie?
Cookie? I think, I deserve two at least!
BAHHHHHHH! I think multi-tabling is an okay factor in poker, but only under one condition.
That condition is that you feel comfortable at that limit, and you are a winning player at that limit, and ready to move up.
I think everyone should ONE table until they are a constant winning player at the limit they are at.And want to move up,and know the situations of there current limit and are really comfortable.Multi-tabling can increase your hr/rate,and increase your bankroll,so you can move up to the next limit faster.But I just dont like that robot style, you will take when multi-tabling unless your comfortable.
The UB dbl buy-in feature is crazy kind of good but kind of bad to lol.I would almost make sure I got a couple more buy-ins for the next level.But if your punishing the level before iam pretty sure the next level up should be a little easier.Just be a couple more TAGs.
Just wait for part 2. You will see more of my logic!
“What also surprised me is I was still able to make some really good reads even while playing at nine different tables”
That suprised me too! I saw another side of you and as you already know… The plans are a little different from now on.
Welcome to Poker-Scholarship.com Jeremy!
Good luck with your “kids”.
Thanks
, Iam happy to be here.Haha well hopefully my kid does good tonight,which I know he will.He has a 3to1 chip lead on Moon.
Congratulations for your “kid”.
You have to buy us some beers!
Wow! Good work.
Secret? Esfandiary?
May I ask?
Sure,haha I will actually put it in my next blog, its kind of long to explain
lol, accidentally was logged in on a old name.Yah Ill post “The Esfandiari secret” today in my new blog
Thank you!
I am waiting for your next post.
Great article Jeremy.
I like that sentence-question.
HAHAHA what a hand.A bet of 1/2 pot is in order here.You showed aggression pre-flop with a 3 bet so you representing a big hand and you should continue with a c-bet here no matter what.BB would have re-raised AA-KK here and so would CO with the 3- bet action in front of them.Only hand Iam afraid of here is JJ and maybe 66 from CO but pretty slim maybe AJ.
Everyone is checking here on the flop if you check I think.Check calling is just showing your your turning into a station calling to the river and calling off money to a better or worse hand (a passive-fishy
).Check-raising is just terrible here because I dont think anyone is betting the flop unless there really strong(maybe AQ) and your missing value.
A c-bet is getting some value from AQ-KK-QQ-1010 and there only calling here as there afraid of the A.I think JJ-66-AJ are raising you on the flop because you showed aggression with a 3-bet pre, maybe AQ might raise here.A bet 100%, no reason at all to check.KQ might peel one but its pretty bad and a flush will prob peel one also.I would say Bet always and if you get called re-evalute on turn.AQ-KK-QQ will check it down to the river if you c-bet.And JJ-AJ-66 will raise on the flop or river all the time.
Iam prob value betting the shizil outta this hand and getting paid off vs. worse, and better hands will raise you.Tricky hand but pretty dry flop,Iam only really afraid of JJ from the BB but thinking would raise on the flop for sure.I think a bigger hand will check raise you all-in on the flop or put a big bet in on the river if you call or turn.
SHOW US THE TURN AND THE ACTION LOL.
P.S This is 6-max right??? Oh sweet 6-max how I love your action.1/2 c-bet will give you all the info you need(A 3-bet pot doesnt need a huge c-bet to see where your at especially vs. 2 opponents).A dbl barrell might be in action here to.
I will check him carefully next time on TV to see his SNAP band.
Thanks for sharing Jeremy!
P.S. Is this thing working with alcohol issues? lol
Lol I read my comment today and was like WTF,I didnt even understand what I was saying.(I was a little bit tipsy that night from playing cards with friends).Anyways here is a better post in what I was trying to say.You should erase the drunken post.
Anyways my answer is this:Your first to act in a 3 bet pot.
A check here looks very trappy especially since you are a LAG and your aggressive,all of a sudden you check on a A high flop when youve been aggressive pre?? Looks trappy to me.But a check could be deceptive to maybe looks like you have QQ or KK but your image doesnt portray that.So check is out of the question.
A bet here looks like your normal style Iam thinking??You can bet and get value from a ton of hands that are calling your pre-raise and they might also think your bluffing because your a LAG and float with an Ax or worse.Valuetown action.
Your ahead of a lot of pre-calling ranges here PP+Ax+SC+some random junk and can get some value.
Your only drawing dead almost to 66+JJ and you still got 25% equity vs.AJ and thats a small percent of villians calling range.
Were flipping vs.Axs+KQc and got a little more equity vs. Just a flush draw.
So value town it is I would bet 25$ for value,Flushes arent getting pot odds that way but are prob getting implied odds sio there calling anyways.
So bet here 100% and if your shown aggression your prob flipping for stacks or way behind.
ok Jeremy!
We will talk about your second post.
The only resond I have not replied so far is that I don’t want to give more info, just to have a clear view.
I know you are curious about what happened…
I was reading your article again and thinking…
Is alcohol allways a “bad” thing?
Are there some times alcohol helps to relax?
I mean … let’s say after a couple of drinks you have less clear mind to think and play your “A” game, but you are -for sure- really calm and focused and sometimes more “brave” (Is this good or bad?)
hmmm….. what do you think?
How are you going?
Lol, not to good until a couple days ago.I was doing a lot of experimenting with different things.Shoving my stack on a combo draws and flipping for stacks,playing 8 tables at once(which was no good because I couldnt use poker tracker because my monitor sux balls and only have one).Calling off to much with TPTK to donks.Playing a really laggy style.I just about went busto a couple times.So I took about 5 days off of playing poker to re-evalute everything on poker tracker and posted a lot on forums and studied a lot.
Last two days I have went to just 4 tabling,using poker tracker and put some new stats in my hud.3 betting a little more and really putting people on ranges of hands and using it to beneift my ranges vs. theres range instead of just my hand vs. there hand.Thinking of villians line of a whole instead of just a what he does on one street and forgetting the other streets.(still working on this a lot.)And really studying the maths of hand ranges and pot odds.And its dramatically changed my game.Oh and not flipping for stacks lol.Cash games are a way different monster than SNGs.Iam just glad that Iam not a tilt monkey
.Ya last couple days have been really good havent lost a stack yet.Had a couple bad beats but not for stacks.So Iam gonna be behing my goals for sure but Iam getting on the right track.
It could prob be good for the relaxing and getting a clear mind thats for sure.Just as long as your not getting loaded and super aggro making bad calls that you normally wouldnt.
The alcohol making you brave could be good and bad I think.It will be good for you if your a weak-tight player,and playing passive.It could be bad if your already a LAG I think it might make you go hyper LAG??
But I do know some people have a drink before every session also.Iam kinda of a lush and drink a little playing poker myself,but I will never play if Iam drunk lol or I will quit as soon as I make a decision that I normally wouldnt.
The quality of the info is what keeps me on this site, thanks!
Wish You a Merry Christmas.
Wow… Jeremy.. That’s sick!
I mean.. You have made so much work to study your opponents and focus more on your game and then boom!
Heads up is a sick game.
Are you gonna start again with the same approach to the game? Same stakes?
Buy the way… We can play some time with other two poker-scholarship.com guys on Ultimate Bet
Of course in private table NL2 or a SNG for cents (I don’t want us to play for money).
Good luck Jeremy!
Good write up Jeremy. It is too bad that you ended up busting especially because the reasons you busted really were not really in the spirit of what you were trying to do.
I actually think that the reason you busted is fairly common among poker players. I think it is fair to say you were not disciplined enough in your bankroll management. Jumping to play heads up at a level that was far beyond what your bankroll dictated was not a very good idea (I have done it myself as well so don’t feel bad!). The way you responded to your poor heads up session also is another fairly common mistake. You were chasing your losses by playing higher stakes. Again, playing outside your bankroll.
I really do not know much about your skill level (and mine certainly has a long way to go) but I know the biggest leak that I used to have in my game was playing outside of my bankroll. This is clearly what occurred for you and it illustrates exactly WHY we need to set good bankroll limits (to protect ourselves against coolers and bad beats aka the variance).
When you do end up reloading and trying the experiment again I hope you stay within your bankroll. It will be interesting to see how the experiment works out with strict bankroll management. Good luck!
Lol, ya HU is crazy.I lost my stack to boat vs. boat.He flopped it and I turned it lol.Then other one was I flopped a straight and he flopped Top Two and he rivered a boat after we got it all in on the flop.Then I kind of tilted and left lol.Hes a best friend so its all good,he is a gambler and kind of paid me back afterwards by buying into 1/2nl and said here you go whatever you make off this buy in you can have,so I made about 150bb in a hour there,so all is good.He knows how much I play poker so now hes got the bragging rights of telling me he beat me anyways lol.
Well mario we should make a time to play considering were pretty much 12hours time difference lol.And Ill log into my old school UB acct. and we coud play.
It’s OK.
Time is not a problem so far.
I will have more free time (I think) from the upcoming week.
If you have a good strategy, shortstacking can be a profitable (robotic) way to play poker.
Good luck Jeremy.
I checked and raised all in.
I had a strong hand and I was willing to play for stacks.
If I bet, the weaker hands are going to fold and I get callers only with better hands.
So… I want to play for stacks (or fold, else I am commited anyway).. but with the weaker hands in the pot.
Now. About my decisiont to play for staks… It has to do with my opponents images.(I don’t remember details about them).
I will find the hand and post what happened. I think he called with a funny hand. I don’t remember.
Here is what I have to say about the hand…
I think the turn offered great info as to what was going on. I think it was clear on the turn that he did not think you had much of a hand. In fact I am pretty sure he put you on 2 big cards. I think that he felt he could get you off of any 2 big cards with a bet on the turn. Usually, I think he would be right…but he is playing against our hero Marios.
Marios, if you felt this same way maybe calling the turn with the intention of bluffing the river is a good move. I think it is risky because that King on the river, while it is a good card for you to bluff at, it also is a card that is very much in his range.
I still don’t like the hand overall. Maybe I am too conservitive but it just seems too risky. I don’t really want to play a big hand with AJ oop. I understand that you 3bet him pre-flop as a bluff, but I dont like turning a decent hand (AJ) into a bluffing hand pre-flop. I think you could have still won the hand with a similar betting pattern without the 3bet pre-flop. This makes the pot size much much smaller (which I like) and does not have you risking a ton of money only to lose to hands like KQ, KJ, K9, or even AK (it is still in his range).
Ya, this hand is kind of sketchy and maybe a little bit spew.I really put him here on 87 spades .He pairs on the flop and floats a pair to re-evaluate turn, and turns really good card.Thats the only hand that would do that I think, or pair of 7s with flush draw on turn or 89o.Really crazy as a spade hits the river.So he must have had 89o lol.
I agree here with JimD as its a good move if your setting up a bluff c/c turn to bluff river.But you almost need a perfect river card to set this up.What would you do if it was a 2s
Mario what was you reasoning for c/c turn??It seemed like to set up a bluff>> or was it just instinct??
what was your reason for a bluff here???Villians line seems to take a floaty/bluff line here.I think you polarize your range here to high PP and bluffs on the river, so I would call you down a lot lighter if I was villian>>What do you think??Share this hand with us MArio on your thought process??.
Also I would love to post some weird 3-bet pot hands here.
Pre-flop
I 3bet hit because I think he has a wide range raising first in on the button.
Flop
If I check here he is going to place a continuation bet most of the times (because of the dry board) and then my options are: a) call and then be out of position in the same situation on the next street, b) fold, and I don’t like folding so easily to this type of players, espesially when I am the aggressor, c) check-raise, but I think it is not the best play here for a lot of reasons.
So… I decided to bet first in a dry board to take the control of the situation.
Turn
I have a gutshot, two over-cards and a “fake” flush draw. If i bet I am afraid of a raise, so I decide to check and see what is he going to do. He bets and I call because I have a lot of scary cards to come in my opinion and I don’t think he has hit something that beats the hands I am trying to show I have. If he has a draw (the one I am trying to use) he is going to check there and see the next card.
The King on the river is an expected card for me. I don’t want to check or call of course and I decide to bet 1/3 of the pot because in the short time I have to decide I believe it is a solid amount to pay, trying to steal the pot in relation with the times he is gonna take my pants and my money!
I have to add here that we were both deep enough and the guy is not a holdem-no-foldem player.
Sorry for being -again- late to reply… I have an excuse… Christmas!!
you collected a great pot, and that’s the important.
anyway..i wouldnt check on the turn and i wouldnt call the opponent’s bet, cause just calling you cant guess anything about your opponent’s hand, i think there is “raise or fold”
after the call on the turn, betting on the river was the only way to get the pot, so it was risky, but profitable too.