Comments on: Improve Your Skills by Killing the Luck http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/ Poker Coaching - Players Staking Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:41:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Ady Miles http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Ady Miles Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:44:49 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-134 If 2KK comes on the flop you are laughing, as you would have four-of-a-kind to your opponents set I know what you are saying, but if you fold premium hands at this stage, the blinds are likely to eventually force you into fourth or fifth place. You want first place or bust here If 2KK comes on the flop you are laughing, as you would have four-of-a-kind to your opponents set

I know what you are saying, but if you fold premium hands at this stage, the blinds are likely to eventually force you into fourth or fifth place. You want first place or bust here

]]> By: Michelle Summers http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Michelle Summers Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:57:03 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-132 What you don't seem to be considering Ady is that you are putting your entire tournament on the line with KK when you have the 2nd highest chip stack. You are in a position to fold K's whereas - say you were short stacked, it would be an automatic call. You never want to put your tourney on the line like that - especially when you aren't even in the money yet. It is too much of a risk when you are in such a good position. If the leader has say pocket 2's & he manages to out-flop you (2KK comes on the flop) you are screwed. Not only are you out of the tournament but you are also now out of the money. Ya - it looks like a great hand. But you have to consider the entire tournament at this point - not just the great hand you have. Consider that you are pre-flop & you have no way to gauge what the other player has or what could possibly come on the flop. There are too many variables to put your tournament on the line. You would be better off to fold & hold out to play a hand like this when you are in the money. What you don’t seem to be considering Ady is that you are putting your entire tournament on the line with KK when you have the 2nd highest chip stack. You are in a position to fold K’s whereas – say you were short stacked, it would be an automatic call. You never want to put your tourney on the line like that – especially when you aren’t even in the money yet. It is too much of a risk when you are in such a good position.

If the leader has say pocket 2′s & he manages to out-flop you (2KK comes on the flop) you are screwed. Not only are you out of the tournament but you are also now out of the money.

Ya – it looks like a great hand. But you have to consider the entire tournament at this point – not just the great hand you have. Consider that you are pre-flop & you have no way to gauge what the other player has or what could possibly come on the flop. There are too many variables to put your tournament on the line. You would be better off to fold & hold out to play a hand like this when you are in the money.

]]> By: Ady Miles http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Ady Miles Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:40 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-127 This is a clear opportunity to take the large portion of the leader's stack and build an almost insurmountable stack so you can take down the tournament. He wouldn't be pushing like that with Pocket Aces. He probably has JJ or QQ, or maybe AK or AQ. Okay, that's maybe a 50% chance he has an Ace then, but you're a clear favourite. If you fold KK to all-in raises you're letting yourself be bullied around and I doubt you would even end of fourt or fifth in the tournament. Far better to go for first place or bust in my opinion This is a clear opportunity to take the large portion of the leader’s stack and build an almost insurmountable stack so you can take down the tournament. He wouldn’t be pushing like that with Pocket Aces. He probably has JJ or QQ, or maybe AK or AQ. Okay, that’s maybe a 50% chance he has an Ace then, but you’re a clear favourite. If you fold KK to all-in raises you’re letting yourself be bullied around and I doubt you would even end of fourt or fifth in the tournament. Far better to go for first place or bust in my opinion

]]> By: Pokeris http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Pokeris Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:06:38 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-21 jimsjoy, that would be true if Hero was an average stack or less. With the 2nd largest stack, however, there's no need to put it all on such a weird hand. jimsjoy, that would be true if Hero was an average stack or less. With the 2nd largest stack, however, there’s no need to put it all on such a weird hand.

]]> By: jimmy http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-20 jimmy Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:18:54 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-20 Hahaha Hahaha

]]> By: Giovanni.Sepe http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Giovanni.Sepe Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:04:09 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-19 looooool looooool

]]> By: Marios http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Marios Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:21:30 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-18 I think you have to think deeper... It is more complicated in my opinion and I have a post to help you understand! http://poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/think-on-another-level/ I think you have to think deeper…

It is more complicated in my opinion and I have a post to help you understand!

http://poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/think-on-another-level/

]]> By: Giovanni.Sepe http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Giovanni.Sepe Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:09:51 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-17 you can kill the luck here, folding the KK in a pot where you have to put your whole stack, after you put just the ante... if he flips AA its bad luck, if you wait for other hands where you can playing using your skills, is better. you can kill the luck here, folding the KK in a pot where you have to put your whole stack, after you put just the ante… if he flips AA its bad luck, if you wait for other hands where you can playing using your skills, is better.

]]> By: jimsjoy http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-16 jimsjoy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:32:17 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-16 To be honest, theres no way i am ever folding K-K here in the situation you describe. At such a late stage in the mtt, and chipleader raising silly from the C/O its a snap call. I understand what you are saying but its for a different situation than this. E.G , in any SNG/MTT, early in the game, when the blinds are small. Then by all means fold K-K here, cause you dont win nothing in the 1st hour of any game. But at such a stage of a mtt as you describe, you cant be fearful of bad luck, you must play to win not just to cash. Now if UTG raised and the C/O reraised all in, then obv GTFO. But in this situation, dont you dare fold K-K here. If he flips A-A so be it, thats bad luck. I understand what you are saying, but luck is a huge part of the game, and you cant be scared of it. To be honest, theres no way i am ever folding K-K here in the situation you describe.
At such a late stage in the mtt, and chipleader raising silly from the C/O its a snap call.
I understand what you are saying but its for a different situation than this.
E.G , in any SNG/MTT, early in the game, when the blinds are small. Then by all means fold K-K here, cause you dont win nothing in the 1st hour of any game.
But at such a stage of a mtt as you describe, you cant be fearful of bad luck, you must play to win not just to cash.
Now if UTG raised and the C/O reraised all in, then obv GTFO.
But in this situation, dont you dare fold K-K here. If he flips A-A so be it, thats bad luck.
I understand what you are saying, but luck is a huge part of the game, and you cant be scared of it.

]]> By: JimmyD (transfered from the old website) http://www.poker-scholarship.com/2009/09/improve-your-skills-by-killing-the-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-9 JimmyD (transfered from the old website) Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:37:32 +0000 http://poker-scholarship.com/?p=90#comment-9 Nice article! Nice article!

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